Episode 16

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14th Apr 2025

Between the navy, NATO & malware: a look behind the cyber fronts

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In this powerful episode, host Nico Freitag welcomes Dr. Robert Koch, General Staff Officer at the German Armed Forces. Together, they dive into the evolving role of cyberspace in global conflicts and why we must act now to strengthen digital defenses.

With decades of experience across the German Navy, Ministry of Defense, NATO, and academia, Robert shares deep insights into military cyber operations, national vulnerabilities, and strategic thinking for the future.

🔍 Episode topics include:

  • The true nature of hybrid warfare and why cyberattacks are already part of global conflicts
  • How critical infrastructure in Germany could be a prime target in future cyber wars
  • Lessons from Ukraine: what worked – and what Europe still hasn’t learned
  • The growing role of AI and drones in geopolitical tensions
  • Why transparency, trust, and layered defense matter more than ever
  • And a candid discussion on why â€śZero Trust” alone won’t save us

This episode also explores NATO’s evolving cyber strategy, the limitations of Europe’s fragmented cyber defense model, and what needs to change – fast.

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Cybersecurity shall be C-level priority
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The weekly podcast "Cybersecurity shall be C-level priority" serves as a platform where various experts from the world of digitalization and cybersecurity come together to discuss current topics, trends, and practical applications.

Host Nico Freitag invites friends, colleagues, or like-minded individuals from different industries to share their experiences and opinions, engaging in discussions on topics such as digitalization, cybersecurity, OT security, data protection, information security, and hands-on solutions.

This Podcast is translated from the original content Cybersecurity ist Chefsache using AI technology to make them accessible to a broader audience.

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Nico Werner

Moin! Ich bin Nico Werner, ein erfahrener Experte fĂĽr Digitalisierung & Cybersecurity.
Seit meiner Kindheit begeistere ich mich fĂĽr die Welt der Technologie und habe diese Leidenschaft durch meine Ausbildung zum Fachinformatiker vertieft. Besonders interessiert mich die Absicherung von OT-Systemen in industriellen Anlagen.

Seit 2012 habe ich in verschiedenen Firmen als Consultant, Projektleiter, Pre-Sales und im Management im Bereich Cybersecurity gearbeitet und wichtige Erfahrungen gesammelt.

Ich verfolge das Ziel, die Bedeutung der Cybersecurity den entscheidenden Stellen zu vermitteln und sicherzustellen, dass die Umsetzung und stetige Verbesserung dieser vorangetrieben wird. Dabei stehen für mich Menschen, Technologien, Prozesse und Organisationen im Mittelpunkt meiner Arbeit, um einen 360° Ansatz zu gewährleisten. Ich bin zusätzlich in diversen Gremien: UP KRITIS, VDI und IHK aktiv an der Verbesserung unserer Cybersicherheit beteiligt. Getreu meinem Motto "Cybersecurity ist Chefsache" bin ich davon überzeugt, dass die Absicherung von OT-Systemen von entscheidender Bedeutung ist. Ich unterstütze Unternehmen bei den Herausforderungen der Digitalisierung und helfe ihnen, ihre Organisationen, Prozesse und Technologien auf eine sichere Zukunft auszurichten.

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Hello there! I'm Nico Werner, an experienced expert in Digitalization & Cybersecurity. Since my childhood, I've been passionate about the world of technology, and I have deepened this interest through my education as an IT specialist. I'm particularly fascinated by securing OT systems in industrial plants.

Since 2012, I have worked in various companies as a consultant, project manager, in pre-sales, and in cybersecurity management, gaining valuable experience along the way.

My goal is to convey the significance of cybersecurity to key stakeholders and ensure the continuous implementation and improvement of it. People, technologies, processes, and organizations take center stage in my work, aiming for a 360° approach. Additionally, I actively participate in various committees such as UP KRITIS, VDI, and IHK to contribute to the enhancement of our cybersecurity. True to my motto "Cybersecurity shall be C-Level Priority," I firmly believe in the critical importance of securing OT systems. I assist companies in facing the challenges of digitization, helping them align their organizations, processes, and technologies for a secure future.