Episode 8

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17th Feb 2025

Learning from mistakes: Why cybersecurity doesn't work without cultural change!

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In this episode, Nico Werner speaks with Fabian Cholewa (Senior IT Manager, ALDI DX) about a critical but often underestimated aspect of cybersecurity: the human factor – also known as Layer 8.

Key topics in this episode:

✅ Why humans aren’t firewalls – but can still be a powerful security asset.

✅ The biggest awareness mistakes: Why traditional training often fails.

✅ Psychology & IT security: How stress impacts decision-making during cyberattacks.

✅ Ransomware & incident response: How companies can avoid the "Headless-Chicken Mode."

✅ Gamification & incentives: Creative ways to make cybersecurity awareness engaging.

✅ Building a security culture instead of blaming employees: How to create an environment where people feel safe to report incidents.

💡 Key takeaway: Awareness isn’t just a checkbox – it’s a continuous process. Companies must engage their people instead of labeling them as the weakest link.

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Cybersecurity shall be C-level priority
Security begins with a click
The weekly podcast "Cybersecurity shall be C-level priority" serves as a platform where various experts from the world of digitalization and cybersecurity come together to discuss current topics, trends, and practical applications.

Host Nico Freitag invites friends, colleagues, or like-minded individuals from different industries to share their experiences and opinions, engaging in discussions on topics such as digitalization, cybersecurity, OT security, data protection, information security, and hands-on solutions.

This Podcast is translated from the original content Cybersecurity ist Chefsache using AI technology to make them accessible to a broader audience.

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Nico Werner

Moin! Ich bin Nico Werner, ein erfahrener Experte für Digitalisierung & Cybersecurity.
Seit meiner Kindheit begeistere ich mich für die Welt der Technologie und habe diese Leidenschaft durch meine Ausbildung zum Fachinformatiker vertieft. Besonders interessiert mich die Absicherung von OT-Systemen in industriellen Anlagen.

Seit 2012 habe ich in verschiedenen Firmen als Consultant, Projektleiter, Pre-Sales und im Management im Bereich Cybersecurity gearbeitet und wichtige Erfahrungen gesammelt.

Ich verfolge das Ziel, die Bedeutung der Cybersecurity den entscheidenden Stellen zu vermitteln und sicherzustellen, dass die Umsetzung und stetige Verbesserung dieser vorangetrieben wird. Dabei stehen für mich Menschen, Technologien, Prozesse und Organisationen im Mittelpunkt meiner Arbeit, um einen 360° Ansatz zu gewährleisten. Ich bin zusätzlich in diversen Gremien: UP KRITIS, VDI und IHK aktiv an der Verbesserung unserer Cybersicherheit beteiligt. Getreu meinem Motto "Cybersecurity ist Chefsache" bin ich davon überzeugt, dass die Absicherung von OT-Systemen von entscheidender Bedeutung ist. Ich unterstütze Unternehmen bei den Herausforderungen der Digitalisierung und helfe ihnen, ihre Organisationen, Prozesse und Technologien auf eine sichere Zukunft auszurichten.

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Hello there! I'm Nico Werner, an experienced expert in Digitalization & Cybersecurity. Since my childhood, I've been passionate about the world of technology, and I have deepened this interest through my education as an IT specialist. I'm particularly fascinated by securing OT systems in industrial plants.

Since 2012, I have worked in various companies as a consultant, project manager, in pre-sales, and in cybersecurity management, gaining valuable experience along the way.

My goal is to convey the significance of cybersecurity to key stakeholders and ensure the continuous implementation and improvement of it. People, technologies, processes, and organizations take center stage in my work, aiming for a 360° approach. Additionally, I actively participate in various committees such as UP KRITIS, VDI, and IHK to contribute to the enhancement of our cybersecurity. True to my motto "Cybersecurity shall be C-Level Priority," I firmly believe in the critical importance of securing OT systems. I assist companies in facing the challenges of digitization, helping them align their organizations, processes, and technologies for a secure future.